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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 9, 2010 23:13:38 GMT 2
February 10th[/color]
Detroit Pistons
Kevin Garnett (95) Ray Allen (85) Kevin Love (77) Trevor Ariza (76) John Salmons (78) Tyrus Thomas (76) Andre Miller (75) Raef LaFrentz (70) Devin Brown (66) Austin Croshere (67) Chris Duhon (75) Dahntay Jones (71)
Golden State Warriors
Al Horford (80) Travis Outlaw (74) Richard Hamilton (80) Marcus Camby (79) Corey Maggette (77) Arron Afflalo (71) Nenad Krstic (71) Anthony Morrow (68) Kelenna Azubuike (75) Marcos Belinelli (73) Gabe Pruitt (67) Jonny Flynn (72) Jermaine Taylor (67) DeMarre Carroll (67) Walter Sharpe (64)
Houston Rockets
Michael Redd (80) Luis Scola (77) Aaron Brooks (75) Leandro Barbosa (78) Ramon Sessions (75) Andrew Bogut (75) Kurt Thomas (74) Carl Landry (73) Chuck Hayes (66) Brent Barry (70) Von Wafer (70) Joey Dorsey (65) Earl Watson (70) Austin Daye (69) Tyler Hansbrough (69)
Indiana Pacers
Danny Granger (88) T.J. Ford (78) Mike Dunleavy (74) Marquis Daniels (73) Roy Hibbert (72) Jamaal Tinsley (75) Jarrett Jack (74) Troy Murphy (80) Brandon Rush (72) Jeff Foster (70) Travis Diener (67) Josh McRoberts (64) Terrance Williams (70) Danny Green (66)
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 9, 2010 23:24:31 GMT 2
DET:
Garnett - he must be decrease by 1 or 2
Ray Allen - decrease by 1 or 2
Love - increase by 1
Ariza - increase by 1
Jones - increase by 1 or 2
GSW:
Horford - increase by 1 or 2
Camby - decrease by 1 or 2
Flynn - increase by 1 or 2
HOU:
Brooks - increase by 1
Bogut - increase by 1 or 2
Landry - increase by 1 or 2
IND:
Ford - decrease by 1 or 2
Hibbert - increase by 1 or 2
Tinsley - decrease by 1 or 2
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 10, 2010 0:03:48 GMT 2
Detroit Pistons
Tyrus Thomas (76) he should be 72 maybe, 74 at most (or Bogut and other that good ones 75-76 C or PF should be 80) Andre Miller (75) that 52 game would whant me to give him 78 or more, but low 77 would be normal
Golden State Warriors
Corey Maggette (77) 78 maybe, he has been real great lately
Houston Rockets
Andrew Bogut (75) he has become a leader in Milwaukee, so 78-80
Indiana Pacers
Roy Hibbert (72) would give 74-75 maybe
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 10, 2010 8:49:18 GMT 2
Detroit Pistons
Well I'm not gonna be an ass(like some others) and start saying what ratings my players should get. But I'll just nominate those I think should get increases, how 'bout that?
Kevin Love (77) - came back from injuries early in the year and now averaging 15.1PPG & 11.5RPG. ( Al Jefferson is at 17.7PPG & 9.8RPG while AL Horford 13.4 PPG & 9.4) So what do you guys think?
Trevor Ariza (76) - I love his defense. His offence perhaps have gotten slightly better perhaps? But this guy is all about Defense man and quite an all-rounder. Just not as exciting as Gerald Wallace on Offence and on boards. Andre Miller (75) - Career high ehh? Chris Duhon (75) - Ive got no idea what to do with him Dahntay Jones (71) - yes/no??
Golden State Warriors
Al Horford (80) - right now an 82-83. Great young fella Marcus Camby (79) - Same same for him. Solid defender as always Corey Maggette (77) - I think he deserves a 79. Arron Afflalo (71) - great for Denver IRL, at least a 73-74 Anthony Morrow (68) - He has to be a 71. Great shooter Jonny Flynn (72) - How could we forget Flynn here. He's a 73 man
Houston Rockets
Michael Redd (80) - Shouldn't he be a 77-78 now? I don't think he's even that good anymore Aaron Brooks (75) - he's an automatic 77-78. Great for Yao-less Houston Andrew Bogut (75) - 78 for this guy. But i still don't like the fact that he left the game in the 1st quarter with a Migraine?? Carl Landry (73) - Solid backup for the rockets. Should be a 75 Tyler Hansbrough (69) - 71 perhaps?
Indiana Pacers
Danny Granger (88) - Status quo. T.J. Ford (78) - The Pacers themselves hate this guy! 76 would be fair Roy Hibbert (72) - Great young big man. I have nothing but good things to say about this guy. MUCH MUCH better Centre than Bogut, the numbers just aren't showing and probably won't for this season at least. But he deserves a 75.
Troy Murphy (80) - 81 maybe? Brandon Rush (72) - 73-74
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Post by Sacramento Kings on Feb 10, 2010 14:25:59 GMT 2
DET: Kevin Garnett 90-91 hard to say how good he really is at this point Ray Allen 83-84 has declined somewhat Kevin Love 79 showed some really nice things this year. elite rebounder and versataille scorer John Salmons 76 I dont think he is having a down year, I think thats just how good he really is Tyrus Thomas 74 is still very inconsistent and doesnt really know what he is doing Andre Miller 77 solid starting point guard Dahntay Jones 72-73 put up soild numbers when he got PT GSW: Al Horford 81-82 has improved a little bit but is still somewhat overrated Corey Maggette 79-80 you dont have to love the way he plays but the numbers dont lie. has really matured with better shot seletion and can still get to the line at will Arron Afflalo 73-74 solid role player for Detroit Anthony Morrow 72-73 elite shooter Jonny Flynn 73-74 is not a great fit in Minny but produces solid numbers regardless HOU: Michael Redd 77-78 agree with Detroit that he might not even be that good anymore but he deserves the benefit of the doubt as of right now Aaron Brooks 78-79 not much worse than Mo Williams for example Andrew Bogut 78-79 Kurt Thomas 71-72 has declined Carl Landry 75-76 is having a great season Indiana PacersDanny Granger (88) - Status quo. T.J. Ford (78) - The Pacers themselves hate this guy! 76 would be fair Roy Hibbert (72) - Great young big man. I have nothing but good things to say about this guy. MUCH MUCH better Centre than Bogut, the numbers just aren't showing and probably won't for this season at least. But he deserves a 75. Troy Murphy (80) - 81 maybe? Brandon Rush (72) - 73-74 Agree except for Murphy. Oh and Tinsley should be an 71-72.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 10, 2010 19:18:35 GMT 2
Detroit PistonsWell I'm not gonna be an ass(like some others) and start saying what ratings my players should get. But I'll just nominate those I think should get increases, how 'bout that? Kevin Love (77) - came back from injuries early in the year and now averaging 15.1PPG & 11.5RPG. ( Al Jefferson is at 17.7PPG & 9.8RPG while AL Horford 13.4 PPG & 9.4) So what do you guys think? Trevor Ariza (76) - I love his defense. His offence perhaps have gotten slightly better perhaps? But this guy is all about Defense man and quite an all-rounder. Just not as exciting as Gerald Wallace on Offence and on boards. Andre Miller (75) - Career high ehh? Chris Duhon (75) - Ive got no idea what to do with him Dahntay Jones (71) - yes/no?? Golden State WarriorsAl Horford (80) - right now an 82-83. Great young fella Marcus Camby (79) - Same same for him. Solid defender as always Corey Maggette (77) - I think he deserves a 79. Arron Afflalo (71) - great for Denver IRL, at least a 73-74 Anthony Morrow (68) - He has to be a 71. Great shooter Jonny Flynn (72) - How could we forget Flynn here. He's a 73 man Houston RocketsMichael Redd (80) - Shouldn't he be a 77-78 now? I don't think he's even that good anymore Aaron Brooks (75) - he's an automatic 77-78. Great for Yao-less Houston Andrew Bogut (75) - 78 for this guy. But i still don't like the fact that he left the game in the 1st quarter with a Migraine?? Carl Landry (73) - Solid backup for the rockets. Should be a 75 Tyler Hansbrough (69) - 71 perhaps? Indiana PacersDanny Granger (88) - Status quo. T.J. Ford (78) - The Pacers themselves hate this guy! 76 would be fair Roy Hibbert (72) - Great young big man. I have nothing but good things to say about this guy. MUCH MUCH better Centre than Bogut, the numbers just aren't showing and probably won't for this season at least. But he deserves a 75. Troy Murphy (80) - 81 maybe? Brandon Rush (72) - 73-74 I will base mine on yours. Detroit PistonsAgreed with Kevin Love, should be around 80-81 the least. Is a beast on the offensive rebounds, is tied with Zach Randolph for league leading 4.3 off rebounds. Also now that the new coach has allowed him to shoot 3s, he has made them with 38,5%, which is impressive. Ariza started off quite well, but after that has struggled with his shot a lot. Something like 77-78 would be sufficient. As for Andre, he is having almost identical season compared to last season (per 36 minutes), only his shooting and rebounding has gotten worse. In January finally got his chance with all those injuries etc and averaged 18.8 points, 6.7 assists on 50% in 15 games. Should be around 77 in my opinion. I haven't seen many Knicks games, so I don't know if he forces so many bad shots or what, but Duhon is shooting the ball with awful percentage. Only great thing about him is AST/TO rating. Definitely shouldn't get an increase, rather decreasing him. Dahntay Jones is probably fine where he is, or maybe could get a point or 2 increase. Golden State WarriorsAgreed with basically all of your choices, only thing that I would like to add is that Flynn could probably should be around 74 at least. He has been great, only needs to shoot better. Houston RocketsAgain agreed with pretty much everything, but got two things to add: * Andrew Bogut is averaging similar numbers to Kevin Love and they should be around the same. Kevin is rebounding better, but Bogut is shooting better and is better on the defensive end (his defensive rating is 8th in the league). Something 80-81 the least. * Carl Landry has been simply amazing and is one of the frontrunners for the 6th man of the year award. 76-77 in my opinion. Indiana PacersAgain pretty much agreed, nothing else to say here. Also, some additions: Kevin Garnett - as much as I love him, hasn't been his old self. I think we should drop him to something like 90. Ray Allen - Same here, not as big drop as him, but still something like 82. Nenad Krstic has been filling the void in OKC as their starting center and has done a decent job, could get up to 72-73.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 10, 2010 20:49:45 GMT 2
February 10th[/color]
Detroit Pistons
Kevin Garnett (95) - I just can't justify this rating anymore...92ish? Ray Allen (85) - Shouldn't go down much if at all, maybe was underrated before? Anyway, I like him at 84-85. Kevin Love (77) - Definitely a double-double machine, very talented Beach Boy. Give him a 79 for now. Trevor Ariza (76) - Can't see him above 78 right now. Tyrus Thomas (76) - Yes, drop a couple...73-74 for me. Andre Miller (75) - Could go up a little...should be 77-78 to me. Raef LaFrentz (70) - Down down down Austin Croshere (67) - Down? Chris Duhon (75) - Probably can stay here...if anything could go up a point or two, but for now he's most likely good there.
Golden State Warriors
Al Horford (80) - Should go up a few points Richard Hamilton (80) - Shooting percent is terrible, come down a couple. Marcus Camby (79) - I think he's underrated, would like to see him up a couple points. Corey Maggette (77) - Could go up or stay the same. Arron Afflalo (71) - Maybe go up a couple. Anthony Morrow (68) - Up a few points...72ish? Jonny Flynn (72) - I suppose up a little, 74 tops for me for now.
Houston Rockets
Michael Redd (80) - Down...77ish Aaron Brooks (75) - I guess up a couple is ok. Leandro Barbosa (78) - Down a couple? Andrew Bogut (75) - Guaranteed 15 and 10 with 2 blocks a night right now...that's great production from a legit C. Has higher scoring potential than that too I think. Last month - 17, 11, and 2.5 blocks. Solid passing big too. I think he's an 80...maybe higher? Kurt Thomas (74) - Down...70? Carl Landry (73) - Up up up, 77? Chuck Hayes (66) - Up a little, 70ish. Brent Barry (70) - Down down...67? Tyler Hansbrough (69) - I dunno, could be 71.
Indiana Pacers
T.J. Ford (78) - Yea could come down a couple points Roy Hibbert (72) - Would be ok with a small raise I guess. Jamaal Tinsley (75) - Down...72-73?
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 10, 2010 21:35:26 GMT 2
Detroit Pistons
Kevin Garnett 95-------------92 Kevin Love 77-------------80 Trevor Ariza 76------------75 Tyrus Thomas 76-------74 Andre Miller 75---------77
Golden State Warriors
Al Horford 80-------------81 Richard Hamilton 80--------77 Marcus Camby 79------------80
Houston Rockets
Michael Redd 80---------76 Aaron Brooks 75-----------78 Leandro Barbosa 78-------74 Andrew Bogut 75----------78 Carl Landry 73----------75
Indiana Pacers
T.J. Ford 78-----------75 Roy Hibbert 72--------------74 Jamaal Tinsley 75---------71 Jarrett Jack 74--------------75
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 14, 2010 1:32:54 GMT 2
Summary:
Detroit Pistons
Kevin Garnett (95) - (91) Ray Allen (85) - (83) Kevin Love (77) - (80) Trevor Ariza (76) - (78) John Salmons (78) - (76) Tyrus Thomas (76) - (74) Andre Miller (75) - (77) Raef LaFrentz (70) - (67) Dahntay Jones (71) - (73)
Golden State Warriors
Al Horford (80) - (82) Rip Hamilton (80) - (78) Marcus Camby (79) - (81) Corey Maggette (77) - (79) Arron Afflalo (71) - (73) Anthony Morrow (68) - (72) Jonny Flynn (72) - (74)
Houston Rockets
Michael Redd (80) - (78) Aaron Brooks (75) - (78) Andrew Bogut (75) - (81) Kurt Thomas (74) - (72) Carl Landry (73) - (76) Chuck Hayes (66) - (70) Brent Barry (70) - (68) Tyler Hansbrough (69) - (71)
Indiana Pacers
TJ Ford (78) - (75) Roy Hibbert (72) - (75) Jamaal Tinsley (75) - (72) Jarrett Jack (74) - (75) Troy Murphy (80) - (81)
Any objections?
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 14, 2010 15:05:37 GMT 2
Steep decline for Garnett, when quite a few guys said 92? And are you certain that Bogut 81 should be rated higher than Love 80, I thought they were more or less on par with one another?
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 14, 2010 22:05:04 GMT 2
Steep decline for Garnett, when quite a few guys said 92? And are you certain that Bogut 81 should be rated higher than Love 80, I thought they were more or less on par with one another? I wouldn't actually mind Kevin Love being 81 either, both have been great this year, but I would rate Bogut being better player right now just by a nod. KG hasn't found his game this year yet, but I wouldn't mind him being 92 right now either.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 15, 2010 7:29:08 GMT 2
thanks minny=)
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Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 15, 2010 15:54:30 GMT 2
Ah, I am "self-righteous" and all that other bull, for "talking up my own guys"...yet here Detroit is getting 2 points for his team, shamelessly. Love the hypocrisy =)
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 15, 2010 15:57:20 GMT 2
Open your goddamn eyes.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Feb 16, 2010 2:16:26 GMT 2
Garnett and Love are on your team, and you try to make sure they don't go down too far.
I'm not even disagreeing with the decision, but all I did was voice my opinion, and you say I'm just trying to raise my own players, basically calling me bias. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING. The difference is, I don't think you're wrong. You thought I was wrong, and you kinda hate me, so you just decided to call me bias, even though I was just looking for the correct ratings, just like I do for every other player.
You are a prick.
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